Marcion

Audimiehet ampuu piruun nuolia. Schollyridit heittää kattoon sinisiä purjeita. Askidit heittäytyy rähmälleen leilin edessä. Marcioniitit kastaa vainaan öljyllä. Apelleen edesä yx nainen, selittääxeen ideansa paremmin, tunkee patonkia pulloon. Toinen Sampsalaisten keskellä jakaa öylättinä sandaalinsa tomua. Marcoslaisten kukilla peitetyllä sängyllä jotkut bylsivät. Sirkuslaiset tunkee toisiinsa sapuskaa, valesiaanit raippaa, Bardesaani räppää, Karpokraatti joraa, Maximilla ja Priscilla päästää pakotettuja huokauxia. Ja Kappadokian väärä profetissa ihan nakuna kyynärpäilee leijonan päällä, heiluttelee 3 soihtua ja huutaa Hirveää Kirousta.
ellauri161.html on line 99: The denial of Christ's humanity -- which gave rise to Docetism, Marcionism, Gnosticism, Apollinarianism, Monarchianism, Patripassianism, Sabellianism, Adoptionism, Dynamic Monarchianism.
ellauri411.html on line 393: heprealaisille sekä Roomalaiskirjeen kaksi viimeistä lukua jne. Hän on asettanut kaanoniin vain yhden evankeliumin kaltaisen evankeliumin Luukasan  mukaan, mutta vasta sen jälkeen, kun siitä ahkerasti poistettiin kaikki viittaukset juutalaisiin elementteihin ja teemoihin. Rooman kirkko ei hyväksynyt Marcionin ehdotuksia ja karkotti hänet sylistään noin +142 - 143.
ellauri504.html on line 92: But the specific phrasing “fumbling demiurge” isn’t a standard scholarly label for a particular sect; what is standard is the idea that the demiurge is ignorant/incompetent or otherwise flawed, and some Gnostic writers explicitly treat him as the “god of Israel.” Whether “Marcionite/Gnostic Marcionist” groups used that exact identification in the way you’re describing depends on which text and tradition you mean.
ellauri504.html on line 98: Vaikka tutkijat kinastelevat siitä, pitäisikö Marcion luokitella tiukasti "gnostilaiseksi" (häneltä puuttui joitakin tyypillisiä gnostilaisia ​​mytologioita, kuten monimutkaiset aeonit tai salainen tieto gnosispelastuksesta), hänen näkemyksensä kaksoisjumalista heijasteli tarkasti gnostilaista ajattelua.
ellauri504.html on line 101: 2 jumalaa (parannus sentään trinityyn): Marcion esitti täydellisen eron kahden jumaluuden välillä:
ellauri504.html on line 103: Demiurgi (Jahve/Jehova): Jumala, joka loi fyysisen maailmankaikkeuden. Marcion kuvaili häntä jäykäksi, mustasukkaiseksi, kostonhaluiseksi, aineelliseksi ja taipuvaiseksi virheisiin tai "kompromissiin".
ellauri504.html on line 113: Yes, Marcion of Sinope (and the movement of Marcionism) taught that the God of the Old Testament—often identified as Jehovah or Yahweh—was a lower, flawed creator deity (the Demiurge), entirely separate from the Supreme God revealed by Jesus Christ.
ellauri504.html on line 115: While scholars debate whether Marcion should be strictly classified as a "Gnostic" (he lacked some typical Gnostic mythologies, such as complex aeons or secret knowledge/gnosis for salvation), his view of the dual gods closely mirrored Gnostic thought.
ellauri504.html on line 117: Key Beliefs of Marcionism:
ellauri504.html on line 118: The Two Gods: Marcion posited a total distinction between two deities:
ellauri504.html on line 120: The Demiurge (Yahweh/Jehovah): The god who created the physical universe. Marcion characterized him as rigid, jealous, vengeful, material, and prone to mistakes or "fumbling."
ellauri504.html on line 124: Rejection of the Hebrew Scriptures: Because Marcion viewed the Jewish scriptures as the law of this lesser creator god, he rejected the entire Old Testament along with any Christian writings he felt were "corrupted" by Jewish influence.
ellauri504.html on line 126: The Docetic View of Jesus: Marcion believed Jesus was not actually material or fleshly (since matter was created by the imperfect Demiurge), but a divine spiritual being who only appeared to have a human body.
ellauri504.html on line 128: While the short answer is yes, the full story involves an important distinction between classic Gnosticism and Marcionism regarding how flawed or "fumbling" they thought Jehovah actually was.
ellauri504.html on line 130: 1. Classic Gnosticism vs. Marcionism: The Nuance
ellauri504.html on line 133: Marcion of Sinope (c. 85 – c. 160 CE) shared the idea of two gods, but his portrait of the Old Testament God was slightly different:
ellauri504.html on line 135: Not a Cosmic Mistake, But a Lower Being: Marcion didn't use the complex mythology of secret knowledge (gnosis) or spiritual falls (like the fall of Sophia).
ellauri504.html on line 136: The God of Law vs. The God of Grace: To Marcion, Jehovah was the real creator of the material universe, but he was inherently limited, legalistic, jealous, and violent—a God of strict, unyielding justice who rewarded obedience and punished evil with severity.
ellauri504.html on line 139: 2. How Marcion Proved Yahweh Was "Fumbling"?
ellauri504.html on line 140: To prove that the Jewish God was imperfect, Marcion compiled a book called the Antitheses (now lost, but quoted heavily by his critic Tertullian). In it, he pitted Old Testament verses against the teachings of Jesus to highlight Jehovah's limitations:
ellauri504.html on line 142: Ignorance: When God asks Adam in Genesis, "Where are you?", Marcion argued a truly supreme, omniscient God wouldn't need to ask.
ellauri504.html on line 155: But Marcion and the Gnostics weren't exactly the same group, even though later church writers lumped them together. Here’s how it breaks down:
ellauri504.html on line 157: *1. Marcion of Sinope ~ 140 AD*
ellauri504.html on line 158: Marcion was not technically "Gnostic" — he rejected the whole Gnostic mythology with aeons, Sophia, etc. His idea:
ellauri504.html on line 166: So for Marcion: OT God = bad/lower god. NT God = good/higher god. Jesus came to overthrow the OT god's system.
ellauri504.html on line 183: - *Marcion*: 2 gods. OT God vs NT God. No fancy mythology. Very anti-Jewish scripture.
ellauri504.html on line 190: The early Church Fathers like Irenaeus and Tertullian attacked both Marcionites and Gnostics for exactly this — saying they blasphemed by calling the Creator God evil.
xxx/ellauri130.html on line 170: Credo quia absurdum is a Latin phrase that means "I believe because it is absurd", originally misattributed to Tertullian in his De Carne Christi. Kristuxen liha liikkuu. It is believed to be a paraphrasing of Tertullian's prorsus credibile est, quia ineptum est which means "It is completely credible because it is unsuitable", or certum est, quia impossibile which means "It is certain because it is impossible". These are consistent with the anti-Marcionite context. Early modern, Protestant and Enlightenment rhetoric against Catholicism and religion more broadly resulted in this phrase being changed to "I believe because it is absurd", displaced from its original anti-Marcionite to a personally religious context.
xxx/ellauri130.html on line 174: Marcion of Sinope">Marcion of Sinope (/ˈmɑːrʃən, -ʃiən, -siən/; Greek: Μαρκίων [note 1] Σινώπης; c. 85 – c. 160) was an early Christian theologian, an evangelist, and an important figure in early Christianity.Marcion preached that the benevolent God of the Gospel who sent Jesus Christ into the world as the savior was the true Supreme Being, different from and opposed to the malevolent demiurge or creator god, identified with the Hebrew God of the Old Testament. He considered himself a follower of Paul the Apostle, whom he believed to have been the only true apostle of Jesus Christ, a doctrine called Marcionism. Marcion published the earliest extant fixed collection of New Testament books, making him a vital figure in the development of Christian history.[citation needed] Early Church Fathers such as Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, and Tertullian denounced Marcion as a heretic, and he was excommunicated by the church of Rome around 144. He published the first known canon of Christian sacred scriptures, which contained ten Pauline epistles (the Pastoral epistles weren't included) and a shorter version of the Gospel of Luke (the Gospel of Marcion). This made him a catalyst in the process of the development of the New Testament canon by forcing the proto-orthodox Church to respond to his canon. Varmaan Marcion oli sitten yhtä persepää kuin Puovoli.
xxx/ellauri130.html on line 176: In 394, Epiphanius claimed that after beginning as an ascetic, Marcion seduced a virgin and was accordingly excommunicated by his father, prompting him to leave his home town. Similarly doubtful is Tertullian's claim that Marcion had professed repentance, but that he was prevented from doing so by his death.
xxx/ellauri130.html on line 177: The Marcionite church expanded greatly within Marcion's lifetime, becoming a major rival to the emerging Catholic church. After his death, it retained its following and survived Christian controversy and imperial disapproval for several centuries.
xxx/ellauri486.html on line 309: And there is Marcion, a man of Pontus, who is even at this day alive, and teaching his disciples to believe in some other god greater than the Creator. Markionismi oli 100-luvulla jKr. syntynyt varhaiskristillinen, dualistinen suuntaus, jonka perusti Markion Sinopelainen. Se hylkäsi Vanhan testamentin pitäen Israelin ankaraa Jumalaa talonmiehenä verrattuna Jeesuksen ilmoittamaan new improved formulaan. Markionistit käyttivät vain typistettyä versiota Luukkaan evankeliumista ja Paavalin kirjeistä. Whether they perpetrate those fabulous and shameful deeds--the turning off the lamp, promiscuous intercourse, and eating human flesh--we know not; but we can imagine. I have a treatise against all the heresies that have existed already composed, which, if you wish to read it, I will give you.
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