ellauri004.html on line 845: Magog,
ellauri009.html on line 1565: Muut porukat järjestäytyy Magogiksi,
ellauri025.html on line 467: Tää toinen Larry Page (1973) on maanpäällinen pilvijumala, tai pilven päällä asustava maajumala, whatever. Mun salasana Googleen oli KILL_Larry_Page!!! silloin kun mulla vielä oli Google-tili. Ei yllätä, että Larry (ja varsinkin Sergei) on juutalaisia. Larry tahtoo jehovaxi jehovansa paikalle. Gogiksi Magogin tilalle, eli Microsoftin Bill Gatesin. Gates (1955) on maailman 2. rikkain apina, Amazonin Jeff Bezosin (1964) jälkeen. Sen nettoarvo taaloisssa on yli 100G. Bezosin on yli 120G. Arvokkaita ihmishenkiä. Jos jokainen apina on laulun arvoinen, näiden arvo on noin luokkaa Spotify. Larryn laulu kuuluu tietysti juutuubista.
ellauri194.html on line 248: Gog v Magog
ellauri194.html on line 250: Early Christian writers (e.g. Eusebius) frequently identified Gog and Magog with the Romans and their emperor. After the Empire became Christian, Ambrose (d. 397) identified Gog with the Goths, Jerome (d. 420) with the Scythians, and Jordanes (died c. 555) said that Goths, Scythians and Amazons were all the same; he also cited Alexander's gates in the Caucasus. The Byzantine writer Procopius said it was the Huns Alexander had locked out, and a Western monk named Fredegar seems to have Gog and Magog in mind in his description of savage hordes from beyond Alexander's gates who had assisted the Byzantine emperor Heraclius (610–641) against the Muslim Saracens.
ellauri194.html on line 252: As one nomadic people followed another on the Eurasian steppes, so the identification of Gog and Magog shifted. In the 9th and 10th centuries these kingdoms were identified by some with the lands of the Khazars, a Turkic people whose leaders had converted to Judaism and whose empire dominated Central Asia–the 9th-century monk Christian of Stavelot referred to Gazari, said of the Khazars that they were "living in the lands of Gog and Magog" and noted that they were "circumcised and observing all [the laws of] Judaism". Arab traveler ibn Fadlan also reported of this belief, writing around 921 he recorded that "Some hold the opinion that Gog and Magog are the Khazars".
ellauri194.html on line 255: After the Khazars came the Mongols, seen as a mysterious and invincible horde from the east who destroyed Muslim empires and kingdoms in the early 13th century; kings and popes took them for the legendary Prester John, marching to save Christians from the Muslim Saracens, but when they entered Poland and Hungary and annihilated Christian armies a terrified Europe concluded that they were "Magogoli", the offspring of Gog and Magog, released from the prison Alexander had constructed for them and heralding Armageddon.
ellauri194.html on line 257: Europeans in Medieval China reported findings from their travels to the Mongol Empire. Some accounts and maps began to place the "Caspian Mountains", and Gog and Magog, just outside the Great Wall of China. The Tartar Relation, an obscure account of Friar Carpini's 1240s journey to Mongolia, is unique in alleging that these Caspian Mountains in Mongolia, "where the Jews called Gog and Magog by their fellow countrymen are said to have been shut in by Alexander", were moreover purported by the Tartars to be magnetic, causing all iron equipment and weapons to fly off toward the mountains on approach. In 1251, the French friar André de Longjumeau informed his king that the Mongols originated from a desert further east, and an apocalyptic Gog and Magog ("Got and Margoth") people dwelled further beyond, confined by the mountains. In the map of Sharif Idrisi, the land of Gog and Magog is drawn in the northeast corner (beyond Northeast Asia) and enclosed. Some medieval European world maps also show the location of the lands of Gog and Magog in the far northeast of Asia (and the northeast corner of the world).
ellauri194.html on line 259: In fact, Gog and Magog were held by the Mongol to be their ancestors, at least by some segment of the population. As traveler and Friar Riccoldo da Monte di Croce put it in c. 1291, "They say themselves that they are descended from Gog and Magog: and on this account they are called Mogoli, as if from a corruption of Magogoli".
ellauri194.html on line 261: Marco Polo, traveling when the initial terror had subsided, places Gog and Magog among the Tartars in Tenduc, but then claims that the names Gog and Magog are translations of the place-names Ung and Mungul, inhabited by the Ung and Mongols respectively.
ellauri194.html on line 263: An explanation offered by Orientalist Henry Yule was that Marco Polo was only referring to the "Rampart of Gog and Magog", a name for the Great Wall of China. Friar André's placement of Gog and Magog far east of Mongolia has been similarly explained.
ellauri194.html on line 265: The Borgia map, copper-engraved world map (c. 1430). Gog and Magog (identified as confined Jews) are shown on the left, representing the far east.
ellauri194.html on line 267: Some time around the 12th century, the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel came to be identified with Gog and Magog; possibly the first to do so was Petrus Comestor in Historica Scholastica (c. 1169–1173), and he was indeed a far greater influence than others before him, although the idea had been anticipated by the aforementioned Christian of Stavelot, who noted that the Khazhars, to be identified with Gog and Magog, was one of seven tribes of the Hungarians and had converted to Judaism.
ellauri194.html on line 269: While the confounding Gog and Magog as confined Jews was becoming commonplace, some, like Riccoldo or Vincent de Beauvais remained skeptics, and distinguished the Lost Tribes from Gog and Magog. As noted, Riccoldo had reported a Mongol folk-tradition that they were descended from Gog and Magog. He also addressed many minds (Westerners or otherwise) being credulous of the notion that Mongols might be Captive Jews, but after weighing the pros and cons, he concluded this was an open question.
ellauri194.html on line 271: The Flemish Franciscan friar William of Rubruck, who was first-hand witness to Alexander's supposed wall in Derbent on the shores of the Caspian Sea in 1254, identified the people the walls were meant to fend off only vaguely as "wild tribes" or "desert nomads", but one researcher made the inference Rubruck must have meant Jews, and that he was speaking in the context of "Gog and Magog". Confined Jews were later to be referred to as "Red Jews" (die roten Juden) in German-speaking areas; a term first used in a Holy Grail epic dating to the 1270s, in which Gog and Magog were two mountains enclosing these people.
ellauri194.html on line 273: The author of the Travels of Sir John Mandeville, a 14th-century best-seller, said he had found these Jews in Central Asia where as Gog and Magog they had been imprisoned by Alexander, plotting to escape and join with the Jews of Europe to destroy Christians.
ellauri194.html on line 275: In the Borgia map, a copper-engraved world map probably produced in Southern Germany c. 1430, the most eastern part contains two fortified regions depicting Gog and Magog, with the following Latin inscriptions:
ellauri194.html on line 281: Magog in istis duabus sunt gentes magni et gigantes pleni omnium malorum morum. Quos iudeos artaxersex collexit de omnibus partibus persarum.
ellauri194.html on line 283: Magog – in these two are large people and giants who are full of all kinds of bad behaviors. These Jews were collected by Artaxerxes from all parts of Persia.
ellauri194.html on line 287: In the early 19th century, some Hasidic rabbis identified the French invasion of Russia under Napoleon as "The War of Gog and Magog". But as the century progressed, apocalyptic expectations receded as the populace in Europe began to adopt an increasingly secular worldview. This has not been the case in the United States, where a 2002 poll indicated that 59% of Americans believed the events predicted in the Book of Revelation would come to pass. During the Cold War the idea that Soviet Russia had the role of Gog gained popularity, since Ezekiel's words describing him as "prince of Meshek" – rosh meshek in Hebrew – sounded suspiciously like Russia and Moscow. Even some Russians took up the idea, apparently unconcerned by the implications ("Ancestors were found in the Bible, and that was enough"), as did Ronald Reagan.
ellauri194.html on line 289: Some post-Cold War millenarians still identify Gog with Russia, but they now tend to stress its allies among Islamic nations, especially Iran. For the most fervent, the countdown to Armageddon began with the return of the Jews to Israel, followed quickly by further signs pointing to the nearness of the final battle – nuclear weapons, European integration, Israel's reunification of Jerusalem in the Six Day War in 1967, and America's wars in Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf. According to an unconfirmed report, US President George W. Bush, in the prelude to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, told French President Jacques Chirac, "Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East." Bush is said to have continued, "This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase His people's enemies before a new age begins." Officials from the Bush Administration claim there is no record of this conversation and that making such references, "doesn't sound at all like Bush", and French officials on the call have similarly claimed to have not heard any such remarks.
ellauri194.html on line 291: In the Islamic apocalyptic tradition, the end of the world would be preceded by the release of Gog and Magog, whose destruction by God in a single night would usher in the Day of Resurrection. Reinterpretation did not generally continue after Classical times, but the needs of the modern world have produced a new body of apocalyptic literature in which Gog and Magog are identified as Communist Russia and China. One problem these writers have had to confront is the barrier holding Gog and Magog back, which is not to be found in the modern world: the answer varies, some writers saying that Gog and Magog were the Mongols and that the wall is now gone, others that both the wall and Gog and Magog are invisible. Why it is the iron curtain of course, the pay wall that stops money transfers between east and west. It is Google of MAGA what else!
ellauri196.html on line 534: Kuinka mahtavaa onkaan elää Raamattuun uskovana juuri tässä ajassa, kun saa nähdä ikiaikaisten profetioiden toteutuvan silmiemme edessä! Gog ja Magog kokoavat joukkojaan, viimeinen taisto on ihan huulilla! Liittäkäämme äänemme pennittömän vapaamuurarin Eugène Pottierin sanoittamaan virteen hartaina:
ellauri196.html on line 944: No johan selvisi mixei Elfrieden runoja löydy millään netistä: Gog ja Magog ja Siira poistavat ne säädyttöminä.
ellauri204.html on line 304: Hän asettaa kalansa koriin siinä kohtaa missä kaxi virtaa haaraantuvat. Tuokaa minulle rautamöhkäleitä. Älkää laskeko mukaan heidän koiraansa. Minä unohdin sinne kalan. Niin minäkin. Se alkoi haista. Niin minäkin. Maahantunkijat eivät päässe Gogin ja Magogin välisen muurin alize. Eivätkä yli eikä ympäri.
ellauri282.html on line 51: Tää menee tosiaan prikulleen niinkuin ennakoin: lopun ajat tuo termiittiapinan pahimmat puolet pinnalle. Yhteen hiilijalanjälkeen puhaltaminen ei nappaa enää, sen sijasta trendaa julmuus izekkyys ja isänmaallisuus. Reviiriään partioivat Gog ja Magog käy toistensa turkkiin kuin terrierit sidostesukkaan, hälläväliä hengessä syömään izensä kuin kezut ja muunkin elävän siinä samalla. Urpo alkaa nälkäisenä purra omaa nilkkaa. Stressed people fight like rats in a shoe. Olin oikeassa mutten kuitenkaan järin voitonriemuinen.
ellauri300.html on line 771: Armageddon är kristendomens namn på den sista striden, den slutgiltiga uppgörelsen mellan det goda och det onda, som i Germanien sedan urminnes tider varit känt som Ragnarök. I Torah beskrivs hur ”Gog” och ”Magog” från den yttersta Norden skall strida mot Israel i denna sista uppgörelse. Man föreställer sig ofta Gog som en kung över Magog, ett folk från den yttersta Norden. Inom kristendomen har man av tradition pekat ut germanerna som Gog och Magog även om man numera ofta spekulerar om en allians bestående av germanska nationer och Ryssland.
ellauri300.html on line 773: Judiska lärde är dock av en mer bestämd uppfattning och identifierar sedan gammalt Magog som Germaner - nej faktiskt - Göteborgare.
ellauri300.html on line 788: Rabbi Eliyahu Lopian skrev att han några år efter första världskriget hörde ”den helige” Rabbi Elchanan Wasserman, som hänvisade till Chofetz Chaim vilken i sin tur hänvisade till Chazal, säga att kriget mot Gog och Magog var uppdelat i tre delar, första, andra och tredje världskriget. Han sade att varje av dessa världsomspännande krig, som alla är ett led i den sista striden, kommer att vara blodigare än dess föregångare. Det borde inte komma som en överraskning.
ellauri336.html on line 445: Is This Hamas War the War of Gog and Magog?
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 177: The sages said that the only difference between this world and the days of the Messiah will be with regard to the enslavement to the kingdoms. It appears from the plain meaning of the words of the prophets that at the beginning of the days of the Messiah, there will be the war of Gog and Magog. And that prior to the war of Gog and Magog, a prophet will arise to straighten Israel and prepare their hearts, as it is written, Behold, I will send to you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord (Mal. 4:5) And he will come not to declare the pure impure, or the impure pure; not to declare unfit those who are presumed to be fit, nor to declare fit those who are held to be unfit; but for the sake of peace in the world….And there are those among the sages who say that prior to the coming of the Messiah will come Elijah. But all these things and their likes, no man can know how they will be until they will be. For they are indistinct in the writings of the prophets. Neither do the sages have a tradition about these things. It is rather, a matter of interpretation of the Biblical verses. Therefore there is a disagreement among them regarding these matters. And in any case, these are mere details which are not of the essence of the faith. And one should definitely not occupy oneself with the matter of legends, and should not expatiate about the midrashim that deal with these and similar things. And one should not make essentials out of them. For they lead neither to fear nor to love [of God]. Neither should one calculate the End. The sages said, “May the spirit of those who calculate the End be blown away” But let him wait and believe in the matter generally, as we have explained.
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 190: Maimonides does a great job in condensing Jewish belief and expectation in the Messiah. The Jewish beliefs and expectations of the Messiah is wide and varied. Through the Talmud, and other writing we see the expectation of two Messiahs. One called Messiah Son of David, and the other Messiah Son of Joseph actually precedes the Messiah son of David and is killed in the battle of Gog and Magog. Messiah Son of David then asks the Lord to resurrect the slain Messiah Son of Joseph. The Babylonian Talmud refers to the relationship between these two Messiah’s.
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 201: According to Jewish scripture and tradition, at the End of Days the nations of the world come against Jerusalem in the battle of Gog and Magog. Messiah ben Joseph leads the armies of Israel in battle and dies in the process. Both Elijah and Messiah ben Joseph are forerunners to Messiah ben David, who will come after a period of struggle and trying for the descendents of Israel. Messiah ben Joseph is seen as the pierced Messiah of Zechariah 12:10.
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 228: Gog and Magog
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 230: The battle preceding the death of Messiah ben Joseph is the battle of Gog and Magog, when the nations of the North, Gog and Magog, Persia (Iran), Libya and their allies descend on Israel to after they (The Jews) have been gathered out of the nations after a long period of desolation (Ezekiel 38-39).
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 232: 2 "Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 "and say, 'Thus says the Lord God: "Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal.11 to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land. 23 "Thus I will magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the Lord." ' Ezekiel 38:2,3,11,23
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 234: 5 "You shall fall on the open field; for I have spoken," says the Lord God. 6 "And I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in security in the coastlands. Then they shall know that I am the Lord. Ezekiel 39:5-6
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 236: R. Y’huda haLevi bar Shalom, and R. Pinhas haKohen, and Rav Huna, all the three of them said that Gog and Magog would come against Israel in the future to come three times, and the third time they would come up against Jerusalem and go to Judah, and dictate to them, for they are mighty men…
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 238: Behold I will make Jerusalem a cup of staggering unto all the peoples round about (Zech. 12:2). What is “cup of staggering”? [It means] that He will in the future make peoples drink the cup of staggering of blood….when they [Gog and Magog] go up there, what do they? They assign two warriors to every one of the Children of Israel. Why? So that they should not escape. When the heroes of Judah ascend and reach Jerusalem, they pray in their heart…In that hour the Holy One, blessed be He, gives heroism to Judah and they draw their weapons and smite those men on their right and on their left, and slay them (Midrash Tehillim, Psalm 119, ed. Buber pp. 488-89)
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 240: Two men remained in the camp. The name of one of them was Eldad, and then name of the other Medad. And the Holy Spirit descended upon them…and both prophesied as one and said: “In the End of Days, Gog and Magog and their armies will fall into the hands of King Messiah, and for seven years the Children of Israel will light fire form the shares of their weapons; they will not go out to the forest and will not cut down a [single] tree.. (Targum. Yer. To Num. 11;26)[18]
xxx/ellauri148.html on line 248: And when the days of the Messiah arrive, Gog and Magog will come up against the Lord of Israel, because they will hear that Israel is without a king and sits in safety. Instantly they will take with them seventy-one nations and go up to Jerusalem, and they will say; “Pharaoh was a fool to command that the males [of the Israelites] be killed and to let the females live. Balaam was an idiot that he wanted to curse them and did not know that their God had blessed them. Haman was insane in that he wanted to kill them, and he did not know their God can save them. I shall not do as they did, but shall fight against their God first, and thereafter I shall slay them…” And the Holy One, blessed be He, will say to him; “You wicked one! You want to wage war against Me? By your life, I shall wage war against you! Instantly the Holy One, blessed be He will cause hailstones, which are hidden in the firmament, to descend upon him, and will bring upon him a great plague… And after him will arise another king, wicked and insolent, and he will wage war against Israel for three months, and his name is Armilus. And these are his marks; he will be bald, one his eyes will be small, the other big. His right arm will be only as long as a hand…..And he will go up to Jerusalem and will slay Messiah ben Joseph…. And thereafter will come Messiah ben David….And he will kill the wick Armilus…And thereafter the Holy One, blessed be He, will gather all Israel who are dispersed here and there. (Midrash waYosha[19])
xxx/ellauri208.html on line 1050: Dhu al-Qarnayn, (Arabic: ذُو ٱلْقَرْنَيْن, romanized: Ḏū l-Qarnayn, IPA: [ðuː‿l.qarnajn]; lit. "He of the Two Horns") appears in the Quran, Surah Al-Kahf (18), Ayahs 83–101 as one who travels to east and west and sets up a barrier between a certain people and Gog and Magog (called Ya'juj and Ma'juj). Elsewhere the Quran tells how the end of the world will be signaled by the release of Gog and Magog from behind the barrier. Other apocalyptic writings predict that their destruction by God in a single night will usher in the Day of Resurrection (Yawm al-Qiyāmah).
xxx/ellauri280.html on line 458: Bicornis, vel Arabice Du al-Qarnain est Alcorani persona, de quo sura XVIII (Al-Kahf) narrat. Rex iustissimus et potentissimus et Deo fidelis, orbem terrarum ab occasi Solis ad ortum tenebat, iustos servans et peccatores multans; murum ferreum inter montes aedificat ut populos boreales Gog et Magog excluderet, quem murum ante diem Iudicii ultimi Gog et Magog destruerent. Iskandar (Alexander) Du al-Qarnain ab interpretibus interdum nominatur.
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